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Непрочитанное сообщение Evgeniya R » 23 янв 2019, 13:13

Dina писал(а):Guys, do you meet the situation when people on the same wavelength speak the same things? Is it the "joined-up" thinking between audial people?

Dina, definitely do! There are lots of examples in real life. Same thoughts simultaneously come to mind in spite of physical / geographical borders sometimes.
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Непрочитанное сообщение Evgeniya R » 23 янв 2019, 13:46

Evgeniya R писал(а):
Dina писал(а):Guys, do you meet the situation when people on the same wavelength speak the same things? Is it the "joined-up" thinking between audial people?

Dina, definitely do! There are lots of examples in real life. Same thoughts simultaneously come to mind in spite of physical / geographical borders sometimes.

The history of discoveries (in physics, chemistry, biology ...) also shows spectacular unanimity among the people who were working on one problem = who were on the same wavelength
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Непрочитанное сообщение YuliaKaitanidi » 24 янв 2019, 04:12

Dina писал(а):Guys, do you meet the situation when people on the same wavelength speak the same things? Is it the "joined-up" thinking between audial people?


Dina, yes, we can see this situation at work or at university, at SVP training or group of Kabbala. People are grouped by interests, person with upper vector(s) will be bored with person if he/she has only lower vector(s). But audial peorson always draws more to the same person like he/she with audial vector.
I have friend, he has audial vector and he organized small programming company, and invited his friends to work with him. Each person on his company has audial vector too, and they are united by one idea - programming.
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Непрочитанное сообщение YuliaKaitanidi » 24 янв 2019, 04:41

R.Toma писал(а):There are people, for whom a cry is not as an injury, such people can work on piles, with no damage to the psyche. But the audial person has a gentle ear, and he gets the pain from shouting. A barking dog, or shouting parents, can injure such person in his/ her childhood. A concentration is the natural role of such human. The main and the sole role with the soul- psyche, and consciousness is an ear.
Other vectors perceive only a particle. Everything is a particle.


It's very valuable information for each person, special for parents, teaches in school and kindergarten teachers. The number of people with autism and depression is growing in the world, it's awful! SVP is key to stop these terrible mental illnesses.
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Непрочитанное сообщение YuliaKaitanidi » 24 янв 2019, 04:57

Анастасия М. писал(а):Thanks for the note, this time it's such a huge one!
Ancients people said about 4 elements:
- Earth
- Water
- Air
- Fire

Today we are saying about quartiles:
- the quartile of information,
- the quartile of time,
- the quartile of energy,
- the quartile of space.

Do you think it makes any sense to search for matches between elements and quartiles? Or there's no direct correlation?


I understand that two vectors are united one quartile, because there are what the vectors need to fill they, but they "look in different directions". For example audil and visual vectors, they need to get information, but person audial vector is introvert, but visual pearson is extrovert.
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Непрочитанное сообщение Рокса » 31 янв 2019, 18:21

I did have experience sharing an audial wave with another person. It felt incredible as if I knew him all my life. It was not about speaking the same words or even sharing the same thought, but we got each other, we heard each other, we listened to each other. I felt truly happy at that time.
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Непрочитанное сообщение Ekaterina33 » 31 янв 2019, 19:34

There are people who are all for others and give the last pants. I always think about it. And afraid to remain without pants :lol:
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Непрочитанное сообщение Ekaterina33 » 31 янв 2019, 19:40

Рокса писал(а):I did have experience sharing an audial wave with another person. It felt incredible as if I knew him all my life. It was not about speaking the same words or even sharing the same thought, but we got each other, we heard each other, we listened to each other. I felt truly happy at that time.


Yes, to be on the same page is probably cool. I dream about it.
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Непрочитанное сообщение Юрий Цыбульский » 17 фев 2019, 11:15

The only what I can add to this, that audial people a very hard to comunicate. They have very fine line between genius and insane. Yesterday he/she was a normal human, today he/she is the worst degradant you've ever seen.
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Непрочитанное сообщение R.Toma » 15 мар 2019, 13:33

Where from we appeared? And where we go? Who needs everything, what happens? These questions don't give any rest to humanity over 6,000 years.
Today we disclose the human species in ourselves, to preserve ourselves.
Our physical world disappears from our senses when we are aware of: "There is no one, except Him".
In the moment, when audial people hear the predictions about doomsday, they descend out from a windowsill. This news gives them a certain relief.
We will continue to develop spiritually in the urethral phase until the moment when we will cease to sense the physical world.
When we hear a word, then we try to recognize meaning, vibration, wave. This is the audial vector.
Most males call a female as - my kitty cat, birdie, etc. Among women only the dermal-visual female can say to her male- my lovely bunny... because this female doesn't have maternal experience, in which a woman learns to feel another person (in connection with the maternal instinct). A male sees in a female a certain object of desire. It's really. This important for our development. In our (modern) time, the connection between a male and female moves on another level, dating occurs on the Internet. Firstly, the similarity opinions/ of views, appear senses, emotional connection, etc. And only after this, a man and a woman meet each other in real life.
Everything is created on differences. And only on differences, we can see everything. Everything around has differences, and it is the foundation of System Vector Psychology.
The opposite of the physical world is the spiritual world (is not written anywhere, only in Kabbalah). System Vector Psychology describes an animal soul, which animates the physical world, but is based on the Kabbalah. Everything, what gives us System Vector Psychology, we can observe every day.
The Kabbalah is written on the language of roots and branches. It means, that a language is conditional. It says not about roots, because it's a pure abstraction, about internal states, but about the branches, which are the natural continuation of roots. Roots are something, that can't be learned through a word. Because a word it is the language of our (physical) world. The branches are only a projection.
The single, eternal, static Light, which is filling itself all around.
We are talking not about the Creator (we can't comprehend Him), about His manifestations. It means, that we are talking not about His essence.
How can manifest the desire of recoil without an obtaining?
Infinite Light reduced itself.
It creates a huge shortage of Light inside himself.
This dark on a light background is the root of our soul. And He wants the Light, this enjoyment.
We are created as the desire of getting.
Not from something, but like the shortage of the desire to fill itself by Light again.
A black point on infinite white can't accommodate into itself the desire to giving. Then the Light is reduced. In a projection it reaches maximum reduction until a full shortage, which can accommodate into itself all force of getting, to absorb the Light of Infinity.
The black is not active. The pure black is unobservable (the same happens and with pure white). On black background left few white sparkles.
The Light left 320 sparks, which directed through 7 streams. This Light enter into our physical world with eight streams.
The full reduction is impossible.
8 basic elements on an inanimate level expressed themselves.
8 streams- a cubic form.
8 groups with 40 sparks, from which 36 sparks and 4- properties of matter (no vibrations).
In an animate soul, there are 288 sparks, this is the properties of vectors.
Our soul arises as an observer at the moment of Big Bang.
4 properties of the body- EDBS, 4 developmental phase. All 8 basic elements are divided on a particle and wave. Every measure is 36 properties of a soul (a vector) and 4 properties of the body.
Arises the law of attraction. The world takes a certain form. At a human arises a certain social form and thoughts-forms about that, how to preserve this at people with the audial vector.
According to the plan, we are created by the Upper Force as Her opposite, and It is comprehended inside a human at the process of getting.
Not as something new, but as something from nothing.
When we are getting into ourselves, we experience comprehension, because we implement the plan of the Upper Force.
Need to comprehend/ recognize evil inside itself.
And justify the Creator by heart. Currently, we are able to justify only ourselves and blame others (the Creator). Everything, what is created, is then justified. Their very existence. Only such a person, who tears off his/ her feet from a window sill, ceases to justify themselves. He or she uses the freedom of choice and will not absolutely right, because this freedom is given to us for comprehension of life, not to stop it.
Initially, we don't have the necessity to comprehend, which functions are performed by the molecules of our psyche. But this necessity we get, to preserve ourselves.
A person recognizes and justifies only him or herself.
When I filled with joy/ happiness, then feel a certain meaning, I perceive myself with a certain understanding- "I'm fine", and all.
When I have a shortage, then I lose any meaning and blame all, what there is outside.
When I'm happy, I assume based my feelings, that there is the Upper Force, which is present in my life.
But when I'm not happy, then I try to justify myself and blame someone outward. I justify, that I don't correspond to a plan and can't get my enjoyment. On my level of consciousness, I don't recognize, that everything is the result of all my thoughts-forms (as a result- I have the Light or its shortage). My choice is to sit in a cellar and blame the surrounding world, or will go out and get pleasure/ joy.
The justification the Creator, when I'm not happy- it is oppositely of human nature.
We don't recognize the Upper Force in ourselves and as a result- we blame.
Our nature- " There is nobody, except me" and justify only ourselves.
How we can justify the Creator by the heart?
There is the audial vector. The aspirations of people with the audial vector are the changing of consciousness (the range could be - from a narcotic until spiritual states).
In my consciousness I'm similar to the Upper Force, but with the opposite sign. Therefore all aspirations of the audial vector- from "There is nobody, except me" until "There is nobody, except Him".
We are created for infinite pleasure- getting the Highest Light by the Creator.
If I (every person) recognize the whole human species in itself, then harm can't to this human species.
In person, who has the urethral vector (lower), there is the pure the audial one, which is not implicated on libido. Can be full switching from the urethral (lower vector) to the audial (upper vector).
All shortages are given us for the realization of the freedom of choice and will- cognition of itself.
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Непрочитанное сообщение Ekaterina33 » 17 мар 2019, 07:19

Dina писал(а):Guys, do you meet the situation when people on the same wavelength speak the same things? Is it the "joined-up" thinking between audial people?

I think when people are on the same page, it is already a spiritual connection to the audial vector.
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Непрочитанное сообщение Ekaterina33 » 17 мар 2019, 07:23

R.Toma писал(а):Where from we appeared? And where we go? Who needs everything, what happens? These questions don't give any rest to humanity over 6,000 years.
Today we disclose the human species in ourselves, to preserve ourselves.
Our physical world disappears from our senses when we are aware of: "There is no one, except Him".
In the moment, when audial people hear the predictions about doomsday, they descend out from a windowsill. This news gives them a certain relief.
We will continue to develop spiritually in the urethral phase until the moment when we will cease to sense the physical world.
When we hear a word, then we try to recognize meaning, vibration, wave. This is the audial vector.
Most males call a female as - my kitty cat, birdie, etc. Among women only the dermal-visual female can say to her male- my lovely bunny... because this female doesn't have maternal experience, in which a woman learns to feel another person (in connection with the maternal instinct). A male sees in a female a certain object of desire. It's really. This important for our development. In our (modern) time, the connection between a male and female moves on another level, dating occurs on the Internet. Firstly, the similarity opinions/ of views, appear senses, emotional connection, etc. And only after this, a man and a woman meet each other in real life.
Everything is created on differences. And only on differences, we can see everything. Everything around has differences, and it is the foundation of System Vector Psychology.
The opposite of the physical world is the spiritual world (is not written anywhere, only in Kabbalah). System Vector Psychology describes an animal soul, which animates the physical world, but is based on the Kabbalah. Everything, what gives us System Vector Psychology, we can observe every day.
The Kabbalah is written on the language of roots and branches. It means, that a language is conditional. It says not about roots, because it's a pure abstraction, about internal states, but about the branches, which are the natural continuation of roots. Roots are something, that can't be learned through a word. Because a word it is the language of our (physical) world. The branches are only a projection.
The single, eternal, static Light, which is filling itself all around.
We are talking not about the Creator (we can't comprehend Him), about His manifestations. It means, that we are talking not about His essence.
How can manifest the desire of recoil without an obtaining?
Infinite Light reduced itself.
It creates a huge shortage of Light inside himself.
This dark on a light background is the root of our soul. And He wants the Light, this enjoyment.
We are created as the desire of getting.
Not from something, but like the shortage of the desire to fill itself by Light again.
A black point on infinite white can't accommodate into itself the desire to giving. Then the Light is reduced. In a projection it reaches maximum reduction until a full shortage, which can accommodate into itself all force of getting, to absorb the Light of Infinity.
The black is not active. The pure black is unobservable (the same happens and with pure white). On black background left few white sparkles.
The Light left 320 sparks, which directed through 7 streams. This Light enter into our physical world with eight streams.
The full reduction is impossible.
8 basic elements on an inanimate level expressed themselves.
8 streams- a cubic form.
8 groups with 40 sparks, from which 36 sparks and 4- properties of matter (no vibrations).
In an animate soul, there are 288 sparks, this is the properties of vectors.
Our soul arises as an observer at the moment of Big Bang.
4 properties of the body- EDBS, 4 developmental phase. All 8 basic elements are divided on a particle and wave. Every measure is 36 properties of a soul (a vector) and 4 properties of the body.
Arises the law of attraction. The world takes a certain form. At a human arises a certain social form and thoughts-forms about that, how to preserve this at people with the audial vector.
According to the plan, we are created by the Upper Force as Her opposite, and It is comprehended inside a human at the process of getting.
Not as something new, but as something from nothing.
When we are getting into ourselves, we experience comprehension, because we implement the plan of the Upper Force.
Need to comprehend/ recognize evil inside itself.
And justify the Creator by heart. Currently, we are able to justify only ourselves and blame others (the Creator). Everything, what is created, is then justified. Their very existence. Only such a person, who tears off his/ her feet from a window sill, ceases to justify themselves. He or she uses the freedom of choice and will not absolutely right, because this freedom is given to us for comprehension of life, not to stop it.
Initially, we don't have the necessity to comprehend, which functions are performed by the molecules of our psyche. But this necessity we get, to preserve ourselves.
A person recognizes and justifies only him or herself.
When I filled with joy/ happiness, then feel a certain meaning, I perceive myself with a certain understanding- "I'm fine", and all.
When I have a shortage, then I lose any meaning and blame all, what there is outside.
When I'm happy, I assume based my feelings, that there is the Upper Force, which is present in my life.
But when I'm not happy, then I try to justify myself and blame someone outward. I justify, that I don't correspond to a plan and can't get my enjoyment. On my level of consciousness, I don't recognize, that everything is the result of all my thoughts-forms (as a result- I have the Light or its shortage). My choice is to sit in a cellar and blame the surrounding world, or will go out and get pleasure/ joy.
The justification the Creator, when I'm not happy- it is oppositely of human nature.
We don't recognize the Upper Force in ourselves and as a result- we blame.
Our nature- " There is nobody, except me" and justify only ourselves.
How we can justify the Creator by the heart?
There is the audial vector. The aspirations of people with the audial vector are the changing of consciousness (the range could be - from a narcotic until spiritual states).
In my consciousness I'm similar to the Upper Force, but with the opposite sign. Therefore all aspirations of the audial vector- from "There is nobody, except me" until "There is nobody, except Him".
We are created for infinite pleasure- getting the Highest Light by the Creator.
If I (every person) recognize the whole human species in itself, then harm can't to this human species.
In person, who has the urethral vector (lower), there is the pure the audial one, which is not implicated on libido. Can be full switching from the urethral (lower vector) to the audial (upper vector).
All shortages are given us for the realization of the freedom of choice and will- cognition of itself.
By Lily

This article has very deep meanings. Thank you
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Непрочитанное сообщение R.Toma » 23 мар 2019, 16:06

The audial person is focused on itself so much, that is able to feel inside him/ herself the unity of the whole human species. For example, not any John resentfully complains, but it is the anal vector "says" inside him.
Nature leads us to a certain awareness, that "there is none else besides Him", and such understanding becomes difficult. Because we were born on the image and likeness and can feel only- "there is none else besides Him". To come to awareness- "there is none besides Him", first need to sense "the unity of the whole human species" inside themselves.

Like a mother, which leads her son (an obedient boy) to primary school at 8.00 o'clock with a smile, praise and candy, or she is angry and hurries her stubborn son. As a result will come to a primary school, happy John, or resentful Peter, but every child must be at school at 8:00 o clock.
The same and Nature leads us to a target. It doesn't matter, how we resided during this process, but at 8:00 o'clock we must be in place.

When the audial vector is manifested, Nature ceases to control people, and we get the freedom of choice and will. The same happens with a teenager when parents let him/ her come in back home later the usual time. But it doesn't mean, that a child must use its freedom of choice and will without any limit. A human and the whole humanity try to preserve itself.
The main crime against the Higher Force is suicide.
Very often happens, that pain from the inner void is so huge, that most audial people try to get rid of the body, which is causing such pain. They don't want to kill themselves. Is no one person, who wants to live so much, as a self-killer after the point of no return.
The point of no return is the moment when he/ she stands on a windowsill or on a stool one second before a jump. And as soon as a chair is pushed out from under the feet or he/ she jumped out a window- occurs the indignation of nature and a human is ready to give everything, feels the mad desire to return all back. To those seconds, when a stool was under feet.
From another side, it seems differently: jumped out from a window- 2 minutes and ceased to suffer.
But time passes differently for every person, in every individual situation.
And those seconds while flying, for a self-killer, are stretched in years, namely, so many years, how long he/ she has lived before... This is such mad hell, such a strong desire to return to everything, what was before a jump. It is such pain, that he/ she usually doesn't reach a ground. This person dies while flying. His or her heart is breaking from such perturbation of nature. This is the real hell.
Suicides are people, who did the only possible crime against the Higher Power, they interrupted their lives when used their freedom of choice and will. Their souls die and nothing remains after them. There are a lot of famous people, which we remember, but they didn't leave anything in the whole mental (psyche).

There is some example with a cell of an organism. It makes the understanding of the unity of human species easier. Every day, in our organism, die a million body cells, and the same amount is born. And good, useful body cells, which fulfil their role. And erroneous body cells, which are necessary to give to whole humanity the capability to mutate.
Every cell has an understanding, that there are other cells. Every cell fulfils its certain role on the level of abilities, but everyone gets the result from the work of all cells. This is- stomach cells, the circulatory system and/ or System excretion of waste products. All cells fulfil the main task- the preservation and prosperity of an organism. Every cell of a whole organism does in the measure of its forces and ability and gets from the work of all other body cells.
Sometimes happens, that one cell is furious and starts to attack others, begins to devour neighbours and produces poisons, or a spore of rabies. But if you do not stop this infuriated the cage, then the whole organism can die.

Can't be happiness (and never will be) and prosperity in one separate family. If someone has a bigger understanding, bigger ability to get Light and work for the benefit of the whole organism, then need to hitch up other cells, that are close by. Thus everyone fulfils its role for some benefit of the whole organism. A whole organism can survive when all cells will work as one mechanism.

So does not happen, that only my/ his/ your son is good and clever, but other children are bad and silly. And a son will live in such an environment. He will develop, must be ranked in a group of other people, cooperate. Thereby, those people, which feel the unity of human species in him/ herself, have understanding, that for the preservation of itself and its posterity much better, don't harm the neighbour, but "bring" the Light for him/ her. In order to a neighbour will be able to feel good and begins to fulfil its natural task for the whole human species, and after this, can get from this group of people.

The moment of receiving is the important thing, which needs to become aware of. Because the Upper Force is giving and needed a subject for getting. For example, you bought some present for a loved person, but he/ she doesn't want to take it. Don't need to buy anything, but ok, if bought, put it somewhere. Unpleasant, true? Otherwise happens with a child, which got a toy. He/ she jumps impatiently and joyfully, while its parents are paying for this toy. How much pleasure gets a parent, which gives a present its child!
And an adult can be like a dissatisfied scratch-cat or can get your attention and some little present with joy. It is a choice of a human.
For example:

".... -not, do you see how we live? This is a barracks, not a house. Everywhere your socks and sleepers. Need to buy some padded stool...
Other situation: a husband bought a padded stool and brought to his wife. Because he thought, that she needed it. He gives this padded stool with a smile. But she says to him:
oh, do you drunk again? Do you have a conscience?
-Why drunk?
-Because an only drunk person can buy some padded stool when there are no bread and milk. My mum was right when she said to me: this man will drive you crazy. All normal people have been in Greece or France. But this mad man bought a padded stool and stands here with the smile as an idiot. Do you see it...?!

What is this story talking about? Need to obtain joy. Need to learn to obtain joys from our lives every day.
Yes, talk about it easier, but how do it? We can get only after we are given outward when we implement our natural properties for the benefit of a whole human species.
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Непрочитанное сообщение Ekaterina33 » 24 мар 2019, 13:01

read a number of times. And very inspiring
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Непрочитанное сообщение Маргарита Ушакова » 26 мар 2019, 09:31

That's a pretty sad story about the padded stool. That's how we live sometimes. Really sad.
The whole article is full of sense and meaning. Thank you a lot!
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Непрочитанное сообщение Лия Тимофеева » 27 мар 2019, 10:34

A society where everyone will give according to their abilities and receive from the whole society is a dream and a utopia.
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Непрочитанное сообщение R.Toma » 18 окт 2019, 10:11

The audial vector

The knowledge of yourself has no relation to the Universe (Macrocosm).
And at the same time a human has a big role, that what happens in the external world. A person interacts with people every minute, unconscious affects on the events in the external world.

The Creator is static, infinite, everlasting/perpetual, we can feel Him and His effects on us.
If we are talking about psychology, it's knowledge of yourself, if we are talking about belief, it's knowledge of yourself, about Kabballah - the same thing. The volume of our psychic gives us the ability of collective realization. When the audial vector is filled, other vectors could be filled and a person starts to feel the desires of other vectors and has the power, that he/ she realizes, it is all real. A colossal dissatisfaction could be only if a person with the audial vector has big frustration/deficiencies.

There we are and we have a sensation of the Creator. A spot in the heart is the massive deficiency of Light.
When an audial vector is filled, we don't feel these voids and depression.

Need to feel an audial vector regularly, so that these states of voids/deficiency don't come back. Every time, the need to work on self-knowledge and about a cognition of other people-the external world. Through the psychic of other humans, we could know/understand ourselves.

The fantastic literature/literary fiction is the childhood of the audial vector. This is a surrogate of the self-knowledge. We (people with the audial vector) have an illusion that we are seeing the external world, however, in the reality we see the internal, what happens inside ourselves.

A real method is when we are changing our intention from obtaining to recoil, and by recoil, we start to obtain. Through justification, other people by our heart, not a justification of ourselves. It's not! The other real way- a justification of the other/external world by heart. This whole world. I start to justify and include/involve other people inside myself.

The genius is only the people with the audial vector, or let's rephrase-we are talking about the audial vector, so the meaning of genius, and the opposite, we are talking about genius, and are talking about an audial human. In the visual vector, genius is conditional. And any idea is only in the audial vector. A potential of this person is a potential of genius.

Today we lose the balance between the internal and external world. The sociologists call it the uncertainty about the future. SVP calls it the loss of a sense of security. There is no harmony/balance and Nature doesn't give to feel the enjoy.

The work of an audial human - self-knowledge is 6 thousand years old. Concentration, the right concentration of the mind improves neural connections, it is going to increase, and that gives the ability to feel the general deficiency/voids. This is the basic work- the role of people with the audial vector by Nature.
A visual creates a human intermediate, an audial creates the spiritual Human. This is the last phase of human development. The audial vector is the most introverted vector from others. When properly filling, one could include, inside him/ herself, the whole external world.
Irena Tomasevic
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